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driver8
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I am so far behind with all these superhero films! ... This week I finally got round to watching Dr STRANGE #1 and #2.

I really enjoyed #1, and what a great cast! It must have looked & sounded amazing in IMAX-3D. I found it engaging, exciting, funny, creative, atmospheric, and visually impressive, plus the action scenes were easy to follow. Cumberbatch is excellent, as always. Watch big and loud, a recommended 8/10.

But a recurring problem with many of the supe stories for me, is that I enjoy the origin story the most, as the subsequent sequel/s tend to go all crazy. Same with this one.

Despite Raimi at the helm for #2 (at times it feels like Ash V Evil Dead!), and despite some excellent set pieces, the whole thing left me empty. Don't expect much, 6/10

Anyone else enjoy superhero stuff on a casual rather than fanatical basis ? What do you recommend?

So far, I've enjoyed: Guardians #1, Avengers #1, Ten Rings, Justice League (Snyder), Deadpools, Suicide Squad.

'OK': Iron Man x3 (I think I've seen them all), Wonder Woman #1, Black Widow, Spider-Man: No Way Home. 

Didn't think much of: Black Panther #1, Batman v Superman.

TV enjoyed: Peacemaker, Wandavision, Watchmen, Sandman, The Boys, Moon Knight.

Didn't much like TV: Hawkeye, She-Hulk.

Good grief ... I've watched more than I thought !


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I think the problem with most of them is the supposed need to be a bigger spectacle than the last one. It just ends up with explosions and fighting for most of the time with a thin plot to tie it together (if you're lucky). Peacemaker and The Boys have been the stand-outs, with Iron Man 1, Deadpool, the most recent Suicide Squad and GotG 1 being the best. The rest are generally watchable, but I've not bothered with Moon Knight, She-Hulk, Sandman (though do intend to), Dr Strange 2, Black Panther 2. I've got Disney+ so it's not like I need to try hard to be able to watch them, but I think I'm just a bit bored.


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I've seen all the Marvel films now, I think, and most of the TV series. I'm by no means a comic or superhero geek, in fact I agree with Martin Scorsese in that the films are more like theme park rides than films - the difference being that I enjoy some of the rides, and he doesn't. I'm a big fan of the Avengers cycle and often go through a cut-down version of it, being the 3 Captain America films and those with 'Avengers' in the title; plus Thor Ragnarok if I want silliness. I also think they should stop filming them right now because apart from a couple of enjoyable Spider-Mans the films since Avengers Endgame have all been lacking, some seriously, and they're now reduced to jaded cash-cow milking (Quantumania is a dismally scripted fx exercise that even Paul Rudd's likeable presence can't save, and the only one I've kept on in the background while I did something else just so I could say I'd seen it).

I haven't read a Marvel comic since the 70s but I have memories of them, and I don't like the way they turned Thor into a clown. He may as well have a big red nose and massive shoes. He's a Norse god! Hulk got turned all 'nice', presumably because his anger issues may have offended a couple of arses on Twitter. I really like Evans' Captain America and I think he was the heart of the Avengers cycle. As regards Black Panther, I'm confident that in a few years people will begin to admit they only raved about it because of the number of black people in it and that the acting profession didn't really die with Chadwick Boseman. Judged by the Marvel yardstick BP was mediocre at best, and the sequel somewhat lower than that.

DC has had a rockier ride, with the best films the Nolan Batmans - though I always regard them as Nolan films rather than superhero films. I enjoyed the 4-hour Justice League remix and its almost total blackness. I think the Flash is finally getting his own film but judging from the trailer it's a tiresome retread of the new bore, the multiverse. The Harley Quinn thing with Margot Robbie is unquestionably the most dismally bad film that ever had a 'superhero' in it (and yes, I know that's 'in my opinion', but I challenge you to name a worse one). And the makers of the second Wonder Woman film should be ashamed of themselves for making light of serious sexual assault; why there wasn't a bigger outcry about that, I do not understand. It should be withdrawn and recut to remove the rape scenes, and WW laughing about them later.

So in summary, some are good, some aren't, and please stop making them.


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Oh, I did enjoy the most recent Suicide Squad film, and I'll go against the grain by having enjoyed She-Hulk somewhat. It wasn't great, nor was the cgi, but obvioulsy meant to be a more light-hearted entry and as such it was occasionally fun. I have watched and forgotten most the tv 'heroes', The Boys included. I think the only one I might consider rewatching is Moon Knight.


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