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HEALTH discussion > How's your prostate? Kegels, peeing, cucumber-banana-tofu ?

The prostate is a male gland of the reproductive system, roughly the size and shape of a walnut, it wraps around the urethra (the tube that carries urine from the bladder). A high proportion of men from middle-age have urinary problems associated with an enlarged prostate, but enlargement is not cancer, nor does it increase one’s chances of developing prostate cancer.

The prostate gland continues to grow during most of a man’s life, with accelerated growth periods during adolescence and from around age 50. Prostate enlargement usually causes problems only later in life, as it compresses the urethra more tightly, impeding urination – some symptoms will affect over 50% of men in their 60s, and 90% aged 70+. Treatment seeks to reduce the symptoms, as the condition cannot be cured.

Excellent 3D graphics video (all cgi but likely nsfw) on the NHS site.

Guys: how's your prostate doing? [PSA, digital probe, bloody semen, up to pee]

Anyone had the digital probe? I had my only one about a decade ago on BUPA - I don't think the female doctor had ever done it before ... she was more embarrassed than I was, and she seemed to rummage around for a while! (And with the amount of lube she used, 2 hours later I had to go to the loo just to fart !)

I don't think they do that anymore ? As the PSA bloodtest works well as a prostate cancer screen. I've also had an ultrasound, like they perform for pregnant women - it's weird to see your insides onscreen! My prostate is a normal size/volume.

I'm (almost) 53 now, and my whole body started falling apart, just after I passed 50! Anyone else having prostate troubles yet? Tests? Symptoms?

The prostate is likely to enlarge as we get older and can squash the urethra and push against the bladder -
- getting up in the night to pee (I don't need to do this yet, thankfully).
- narrow urine stream (that's me) - very little online about this.
- bladder infection (that's me, too, and what prompted the ultrasound).
- bloody semen - I had this too - surprising and rather worrying! (Brown streaks for 2 weeks, not actual bright red blood). But thankfully, likely caused by a bad case of the flu. It's surprisingly common, but often goes unnoticed (obviously) and unreported (understandably). Interesting recent discussion about this here (first letter). Again, there's not much online about this.

  • The normal prostate gland measures 3×3×5cm (volume 25ml) [source].
  • Total prostate volume (TPV) increases for each age group [source]: 40–49 years +5ml / 70–80 years +11ml.

Some good info at my fave science-based nutrition site, eg:

  • Some Prostates Are Larger Than Others - Benign prostatic hyperplasia affects 80% of older men, but appears to be a consequence of our diet.
  • Prostate vs. Plants - avoid: refined grains, eggs, poultry, dairy, fried foods, fat // Eat: tomatoes, legumes (beans, peas, lentils, soy), garlic + onions, ground flax, a diet high in antioxidants/anti-inflammatories.

Another good site for the latest science is Dr Mirkin, eg:

BBC Radio 4 podcast - Prostate Cancer. One in eight men in the UK get prostate cancer, but deciding who needs treatment is unclear. Also a useful discussion on prostate biopsies - what type to get, how effective they are, and the risks involved. *Essential listening*
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How's your prostate? Kegels, peeing, cucumber-banana-tofu ?

I thought I would revisit this simple test (for larger version, right-click to open in new tab) due to an increase in urgency! And I couldn't remember what the other risk factors are.

Thankfully, I still don't need to get up in the night - a friend of mine of the same age has done for several years now. So that makes my overall score still very much in the MILD category. ?


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I scored 10.

Biggest contribution is having to get up every night for a wee. The frequency of needing to go surely varies hugely based on how much you drink.


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Man’s Favorite Organ: 20 Facts and Curiosities (Andrew Siegel MD) - mildly nsfw

  • The reverse-cowgirl position is most likely to result in penile slippage, torque injuries and fracture (and it's a big surprise when you pop out!).
  • Penile shortening can occur with disuse atrophy (keep at it, guys!)
  • It is entirely possible to ejaculate and climax without an erection (who knew?! Might prove useful in later years ...).
  • The key to rock-hard rigidity are the male pelvic floor muscles, so do your man-Kegels.
  • 'Impotence' was thought to be psychological, whereas nowadays we know 'erectile dysfunction' is usually physical (an early symptom of cardiovascular disease).
  • Aging => more direct stimulation to obtain an erection, rapid loss of the erection, increased time before next erection.
  • Penile self-injection is a common erectile dysfunction treatment (I'd not heard of this till the Harvey Weinstein case - he used to do it).
  • In 500 couples (5 countries) the average time between penetration and ejaculation = 33 secs to 44 mins, median 5.4 mins. (So 'premature ejaculation' is a perception problem?)

Facts And Myths Of Male Fertility: Tight Underwear, Hot Tubs, Marijuana, And More ...
I suspect most of us are past trying for (more) kids by now, but if you are wanting to conceive during the lockdown then avoid:

  • drugs, smoking, heavy drinking.
  • warmth/heat (summer, tight clothes, baths).
  • stress, being over-weight.

Everything you wanted to know about your “Banjo String” but were afraid to ask ... [yes, by clicking, I understand this is a NSFW doctor's site with close-up photos of normal anatomy]

I think we've all heard stories of this happening ? >> The frenulum “banjo string” is sensitive to sexual stimulation; tearing of it can result in pain and bleeding because of its rich blood and nerve supply.

Likely due to a lack of stretching when young. Having a tight (unstretched) foreskin is 'phimosis' (NHS) - I know of a few people who have had this problem as adults.

We need to learn to wash and gradually stretch as teenagers - I remember my Mum explaining how important it was to keep things clean. So we start out with DIY, until we're lucky enough to find someone to lend a (careful) hand.

Apparently, the foreskin is stuck down in the same way that a fingernail is attached! So imagine all the long-term manipulation it would take to enable your fingernail to lift up without pain!


Savage Love: Unplugged - Dan Savage is frequently interesting and enlightening, and here's discussion on how to (and how not to) introduce the idea of male butt-play to your wife. Useful if you (like redacted earlier) were feeling stressed and needed some intimate massages downstairs.

Although, as I've been enjoying Dan's column for 10 years now (fnarrr...), the surprise for me was the 50yo guy still having sex twice every week after 15 years and kids!


Latest advice from the good doctor ...

Vacuum Erection Devices: What You Should Know

I remember seeing adverts for these things in the back pages of Razzle back in the '80s ... well, wadda ya know ... sounds like they actually work! So if you need a simple method to give yourself a lift on your birthday, this should definitely be your first port of call, before popping blue pills or injecting directly into your old man!

If you're new to this thread, have a look around the doctor's blog for some interesting and informative articles, and start here >> What To Expect of Your Erections As You Age…20’s, 30’s, 40’s and Beyond

Another excellent article this week, from the good dick doc -

Bouncing Balls: Understanding Positional Changes of Your Testes - A complaint voiced frequently by my middle-aged patients is that their testicles hang loosely ...

The first time I heard about this phenomenon was actually by comedian Joan Rivers making reference to guys over the age of 50! And yep, sure enough ... yet another thing added to our 'male menopause' list !

Man Kegels: What You Don’t Know (But Should) - including a gym-style workout routine. These really aren't talked about enough ... If you (occasionally) experience urinary post-void dribbling, weak ejaculations or erectile dysfunction, then your pelvic floor muscles need strengthening.

Exercising your Pelvic Floor Muscles (PFM) = Functional Fitness, for improved:

  • Urinary control (improve incontinence issues and dribbling)
  • Sexual performance (rigidity, durability, control)
  • Bowel control

You 2 are both fitter than me and (a bit) older - I need to up my game ... and my kegels!

I'm an avid Dan Savage follower, and this recent reader 'letter' fits well here ...

I have a piece of advice I'd like to share with your readers. I'm a 56-year-old gay man. From my 20s though my 40s, I was as sexually active as often as it was possible for me to be. I loved sex and sought it every chance I got. It made me feel alive!

Then just as I was about to enter my 50s, I started to have erection problems. I could still come, but a spongy dick is ego-deflating. Not wanting to accept what was going on, I talked to my doctor about it. I've tried Levitra, Cialis and now Viagra, as well as a host of cock rings. Not much of anything seems to help. I miss my sex life, and I miss the confidence that came with it. I didn't expect this, nor did I plan for it. It’s a lonely feeling.

That's why I think it's important for your readers to understand the following: Have all the sex you want and that you can while you can (so long as you’re not hurting anyone or putting anyone at risk). Don't put those sexual fantasies on the back burner. Don't stay in a relationship that stifles you sexually! You owe it to yourself to experience what you want to experience today. Don’t take tomorrow for granted as tomorrow might have something else in store for you.

Take home: this happened in his late 40s, ED meds didn't help, and it certainly wasn't a case of: use it or lose it (as he was, and he still did).

There was also a Guardian letter yesterday >> My husband and I haven’t had sex for 10 years. Can we start again?

I am 60, and my husband is 62. We have not had sex for nearly 10 years and my husband states that he can’t see us ever having a sex life again. Is it possible for a man who has completely lost his sex drive to rediscover it?
>> sometimes men stop wanting to have sex because they are experiencing a problem such as erectile dysfunction ... caused by solvable psychological issues – depression, stress ... or an undiagnosed medical condition.

I think much more emphasis needs to be placed on cardio-vascular issues. Erectile dysfunction acts as a canary-in-the coalmine, and should really be included as part of the standard male health checkup.

Erectile dysfunction in bed ? Do you still get overnight erections and morning wood?
Yes, then your cardio is OK (work on psychology, go slow, set the scene, don't stress over not always achieving orgasm).
No, then it's a cardio warning (increase exercise and eat healthy).


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For me, there were definite changes over 1-2 years, in my early 50s. The spontaneous daytime wood and occasional wet dreams continued annoyingly throughout my 40s, whereas now I don't usually wake with morning glory, and I'm certainly no longer drilling holes in any mattress.

Ignoring the ridiculous x3/day teenage years, following the 'new relationship energy' stages, my libido would happily settle around the x3/week mark, for decades, whereas nowadays I'm definitely at the x3/month stage (much to mrs driver's relief!).

During a 1-hour session even in my late 40s, it was always Thor's hammer from the first kiss to the wash, whereas nowadays there's definite waxing-and waning that wouldn't even support a bath towel.

Sex and the Middle-Aged Male - The Natural Physiology of Male Sexual Function with Aging

the facts and fiction of erectile dysfunction
Myth: Erectile Dysfunction Only Happens After a Certain Age
Myth: Erectile Dysfunction Is Always Psychological
Myth: Erectile Dysfunction Can Only Be Treated By Viagra
(these will be good SEO for Google!)

I’ve only just read this post, very honest, I can totally relate too. I thought mine was down to stress caused by personal issues like being cheated on and divorce etc. Nice to read I’m not alone.

You are lucky that you have a wife/partner to have gone through this with. As a single man in his late 50’s meeting a new partner is now fraught with difficulties and worry about whether everything works without chemical help.

A lot of women aren’t very understanding...I suggested Viagra to one lady who took massive offence that being with her wasn’t sufficient to get things working and no amount of telling her it’s a natural thing for men of my age on occasions to have issues would calm her down.

Another lady I met online still had the libido of a teenager which was great but the pressure to keep up was enormous and after many barren years nursing my late girlfriend through cancer it was all too much and I sadly had to say goodbye to her.

I know in a later post you said you wouldn’t take Viagra but as a single guy who wants to make an impression on a new partner it’s almost essential, as it’s not an easy conversation to have early on in a new relationship.?

Yes, us men really should be talking more about these things, hence the thread. ?

Thanks for your honesty too, and a shame you've been meeting less than understanding women. With Viagra so often mentioned in popular conversation, it's weird that women don't expect to meet any men who take it ? Maybe it's this - women remember "new relationship energy" with their ex-husband, have kids, then libido slides, divorce in their 40s. Then they kinda expect new relationships to be as 'perky' as when they were dating in their 20s.

From what you said, makes me wonder how many men must pop a blue pill on their date (in the off-chance) and the women have no clue, especially in the early months. It's easy to nip to the loo early in the evening, and swallow a Viagra.

But having said all that, I do understand how some women do not feel attractive/sexy enough if they can't get their man hard (or to finish). That seems to be a common issue, but from the man's side we know it's nothing to do with their sexiness. Again, if they are thinking back to the men in their 20s who never had this problem, they can easily think the issue is now theirs due to their appearance. Especially so if they are venturing out into the dating world after a decade (?) in a sexless marriage, and are raring to go again, to prove to the world.

I'm sure there are many women dating who are less bothered about the physical side of a relationship. Things change a lot for women after menopause (that's for another thread!) and many women say they are happy with a cuddle and a cuppa. And whilst penis-in-vagina sex is great, it's not the be-all/end-all, with most women unable to orgasm from it alone, and of course the availability/usage of sex toys is so much more common these days (we even started with them in our 50s!)

For me, there's definitely no stress or performance anxiety with my wife of several decades. And weird how quickly things did change over 1-2 years. I eat healthy and sleep well, am not overweight and have normal BP/cholesterol, but I don't exercise as much as I should, especially during lockdown (although my changes happened before then). So many people these days are overweight - overall body fitness has a huge bearing, so jogging (and walking quickly) will be a big cardio help. And when you add in all the men on anti-depressants, it's a wonder that anyone over 40 can still get it up at all!

Out of interest ... Prescriptions for sildenafil (commonly sold as Viagra) >>

  • 2004 = 1.0 million
  • 2006 = 1.0 million
  • 2013 = 1.4 million
  • 2014 = 1.7 million
  • 2016 = 2.9 million

So assuming 2 prescriptions would on average give enough tabs for the year (?) that's well over a million men taking it regularly. Likely, most of these men are 40+, so it's a significant % of older men.

Yes mate we should be talking more about it, but it’s not the sort of thing you discuss with mates at the pub or work is it? I worked in an all male environment for years and we were all roughly the same age...there was always the one bloke who boasted of his prowess and staying power and conquests and that makes it awkward to say anything different...

The lady I met was exactly as you described...she had been in a sexless marriage and when she came out of it discovered sex toys and online porn etc I would go to hers on a Saturday afternoon and she would be expecting 2-3 times before bed, again at bed time, during the night (if we woke up) and once or twice Sunday morning ? I would go home like a dried out husk and always felt huge pressure to try and perform, it was a new relationship and therefore not easy to discuss, and as blokes don’t talk about it you think everyone else can still carry on like that. In the end, she wasn’t getting what she wanted from me and I was feeling under too much pressure from her (I started making excuses not to see her) and things ended ? I did meet her afterwards and we talked it all through, which is what we should have done earlier.. I’ve heard from her again recently and the menopause has hit and she isn’t interested in that side at all now. Makes me wonder if it was all a pre menopause thing anyway.

As for Viagra...I did used to sneak some with me when I went to see her, I found even a small amount did the job, but after previous experiences I was embarrassed to tell her. I’m not overly keen on the side effects with a full or even half tablet so tended to quarter one.

Holy crap, I'm not sure I was up to that level of performance at my peak decades ago let alone recently!!

I really like the honesty and openness in this thread, thanks for sharing guys ?

After 30 years of marriage, I started having difficulties about a year ago with maintaining an erection and finishing during sex. I tried viagra (well not viagra actually, can't remember which one) but that didn't help that much. I ended up seeing a therapist for about 10 sessions over the summer where we talked through lots of stuff.

He recommended reading this book ("Coping with Erectile Dysfunction: How to Regain Confidence and Enjoy Great Sex: How to Regain Confidence & Enjoy Great Sex") which I found very interesting and helpful.

Other than my age (55), there seems to be a strong psychological element for me with me getting worried that I wouldn't be able to finish which became a self-fulfilling prophecy. I started practicing mindfulness and a bit of meditation which helped. I have a level of performance back now but I'm not back to how I was over a year ago which is disappointing.

I don’t know how I managed it either. As a young 20 year old no problem but at 59 no way without chemical assistance.

I think a huge amount of it is psychological The more you worry the worse the problem. I was getting really frustrated with starting ok and losing my erection mid session. (Why? Never happened when I was younger) and as you say it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy and even if you are in the moment and not thinking about it there is probably a tiny section at the back of your mind worrying away and that bit often wins.

I do find that viagra, or even a small amount does help...a whole tablet and the side effects can be quite painful and also very obvious afterwards, so no hiding the you have taken one! If you found viagra doesn’t work, try some different ones, there are plenty available to try and different strengths from the 2.5mg daily maintenance dose (minimal side effects) to the 10mg glass cutter strength.

I tried taking to my GP who just told me to go home and relax and all would be ok. Then tried again with a female locum GP who was fantastic and recommended trying viagra, her theory was that if you used it and it worked then you gradually lessen the amount and your body gets it’s act together and eventually you can maintain an erection without assistance. It kind of worked but I think you need to be in a regular relationship without any performance/size/staying power worrries of a new relationship.

At my age now that’s the awkward part of meeting someone...that first time and if things don’t work will she be offended and worried it’s her...and also women tell their mates everything so you know it will be everywhere!

I’ll look at that book, but might not buy it on Amazon as occasionally my Mum uses my account to buy some bits!

Yes, I'd say that's exceptional ? ... new relationship energy levels for your 20s. You did great ! ?I can't imagine there are that many women who are that horny (... or maybe I'm just refusing to imagine !) With internet dating, you can lay all that out with text (and voice) chats before you even meet, to make sure you're both on the same page.

At any age, 3 times/day max has been plenty for me - not that I couldn't manage more, but it starts to feel much less enjoyable. I've always preferred alternate days, even in the early months, which gives me best physical enjoyment out of each session. I'd say that my dick muscle actually aches, and I've never enjoyed morning sex as much at all (for some reason).

And lets not forget all the friction ... didn't you get sore? Or were you using plenty lube? At x3/day, (or even a long session) we both get those tiny 'splits' in the skin that sting when you wash with soap!

I tried Viagra ... but that didn't help that much ... psychological, getting worried that I wouldn't be able to finish, which became a self-fulfilling prophecy. I have a level of performance back now but I'm not back to how I was over a year ago which is disappointing.

Welcome to the group, we're all friends here. ?

Interesting that your experiences with Viagra (or equivalent) are so much different. I do remember reading that while Viagra can make you hard, it doesn't actually make you horny of course, so there are several mechanisms at play.
Try not to be disappointed, as it's great that you've regained some of your former glory. It would be interesting to see if a few months of cardio (jog/cycle) would help a bit more, along with a healthier diet shift (more fruit & veg, zero fried).


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Prostate Enlargement Demystified - another great article from the good dick doc, with discussion of milder symptoms not often detailed online. Thankfully, I'm still at the low end of the enlargement symptoms, and still don't need to get up in the night to pee. Hopefully I can maintain this level for another decade!

More Than an Apple a Day: Preventing the Most Common Diseases - excellent 1 hour video lecture on eating healthy to reduce disease. There's also a full text transcript (7500 words) with relevance to this thread >>

Erectile dysfunction is present in up to 30 million men in the U.S., and approximately 100 million men worldwide.

Who cares, though? We’ve got Viagra. The problem is, pills just cover up the symptoms of vascular disease, and don’t do anything for the underlying pathology. Erectile dysfunction and coronary artery disease can be thought of as two manifestations of the same disease—inflamed, clogged, and crippled arteries.

In fact, 40% of men over 40 have erectile dysfunction. Placing them at nearly 50 times the risk of having a cardiac event, like sudden death. Nearly a 5,000% increase in risk!

We used to think of erectile dysfunction in younger men (20s-30s) as ... psychological ... But, now were realizing it’s the early signs of vascular disease. A man with erectile dysfunction (even if they have no cardiac symptoms) should be considered a cardiac patient, until proved otherwise.

The reason even young men should care about their cholesterol level is that hardening of the arteries can lead to softening of the penis later in life. Your cholesterol level in your 20s-30s can predict your sexual functioning later in life.

... Viagra affects an enzyme in two places in the body: the erectile tissue of the penis, and the retinas of the eyes. If you experience sudden loss of vision, the advice is to stop taking Viagra and call a doctor ... (if you can still find your phone!)

The take-home message is a simple equation: ED stands for early death. It’s survival of the firmest.

Latest from the good dick doc -

What You Don’t Know About Testosterone (But Should) - and more about Testosterone Levels.

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Male impotence - Men who have difficulty achieving and maintaining an erection are at significantly increased risk of heart attacks because both conditions have the same risk factors:
• smoking • overweight • diabetes • high cholesterol • high blood pressure • lack of exercise

Of men who show up in a doctor’s office for impotence:
• 25% have heart disease • 23% are diabetic • 34% have high blood pressure.

• Impotent men suffer a very high rate of heart disease.
• The same lifestyle changes that help to prevent a heart attack also help to prevent and treat impotence.
• Arteriosclerosis plaques in arteries obstruct blood flow. In the penis => impotence, in/to the heart => heart disease.
• In cases when it's low testosterone causing impotence, that also causes lack of desire (as well as arthritis, depression, high blood pressure, etc).

 
Impotence Often Precedes a Heart Attack by three to five years ... men who are impotent have a 59 percent increased risk for heart attacks, a 34 percent increased risk for a stroke, and a 33 percent increased risk for dying from any cause. One study showed that impotent men were twice as likely to develop heart disease and had an 80 percent higher risk of already suffering from heart disease.

Beware of a doctor who treats impotence with testosterone without recommending an evaluation for heart attack risk factors. Testosterone will not prevent a heart attack, and men who are impotent and have low testosterone levels still are at significantly increased risk for heart attacks.

Shared Risk Factors for Impotence and Heart Attacks:
• type II diabetes
• smoking and excess alcohol intake
• obesity and high blood pressure
• high levels of the bad LDL cholesterol/triglycerides, lower levels of the good HDL
• plaques blocking arteries leading to the heart
• higher calcium scores (indicates the size of arterial plaques)
• abnormal coronary angiograms,
• low testosterone levels that increase risk for impotence also are associated with increased risk for a heart attack.

Impotence and Inflammation - Impotence is often caused by an overactive immunity, called inflammation, that damages the smooth muscles and inner linings of arteries leading to the penis. Heart attacks are believed to be caused by damage to the same factors. First, inflammation punches holes in the inner lining of arteries that causes bleeding, then clotting and then plaques start to form that decrease blood flow to the penis that can inhibit an erection.

Recommendations - Failure to achieve erections does not always indicate that you have an underlying heart problem. However, all men who consistently have difficulty achieving erections should be screened for heart disease. If you are impotent, check with your doctor for a medical evaluation and get instructions on starting a lifestyle program to help prevent heart attacks that may also help to treat your impotence:
• lose excess weight and exercise regularly
• do resistance exercises to grow larger muscles
• anti-inflammatory diet: lots of veg, fruit, beans, nuts, severely restrict neat, sugar, fried foods
• limit alcohol, avoid smoking and second-hand smoke
• keep blood levels of hydroxy vitamin D above 30 ng/mL


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Can be, although personally I stop drinking water about 1.5hrs before bedtime, so for me that's fairly consistent.

I also usually avoid all caffeine after about 5pm, as this can have an effect too - caffeine is a diuretic of course, and also apparently has a long half-life (so remains in the body for hours).


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I only drink coffee in the morning and certainly have to go more often than drinking water/coke etc


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I scored 4. Thankfully my bladder's fine, had a wee test last year.

Today I was at Royal Papworth hospital talking to two heart surgeons about how they were going to sort out my hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (HCM). Looks like open heart surgery in 3 to 6 months.


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Had my first real head cold of the last few years and boy I don't miss them at all. Started feeling poorly last Thursday and over the weekend and now the body is trying to expel the phlegm and I've been racked with coughing which is giving me headaches and draining all energy. Luckily I'm able to work from home, so can keep on with editing and Teams meetings. Did a couple of COVID tests and both came back negative, so there's that. Always hearing people coughing and sniffing in the street and in shops and I always mask up, but it was bound to happen sometime.


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Yes! So many people with colds and flu-y symptoms these last few months.

Myself included, with an ear infection (blocked Eustacian tube), sinus discomfort, 'scratchy' throat, and the occasional massive sneeze! ? The weirdest symptom was a sort of dull headache that ... get this ... seemed to extend down into my upper chest! ? Weird!

I honestly think I've had more days feeling 'off' in the last 3 years than the previous 30 combined!


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I had a doozy of a chest infection over Xmas that took ages to clear up. My mum had one too, and she's quite advanced in years. In fact the first long lockdown was very good for her - she's quite prone to chest infections, getting them regularly, and when covid kept us all indoors she didn't cough for a year. She felt great, and as soon as social distancing limits shrank she started again. My recent one was also very painful because whenever I coughed my left thigh bleeding well HURT; the worst pain I've known since I had an infected foot in the early 80s. I'm assuming it was a nerve thing, but I worry when it twinges occasionally. Also since about Xmas I've been pestered with what I'm assuming is tinnitus, a high-pitched electronic whine that has been constant. Not at a level to really annoy me, but I'm on a waiting list to have my hearing checked.


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