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🏳️‍⚧️ ⚤ J. K. Rowling & the Trans Debate ♂♀ 🏳️‍🌈

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It does seem very unfortunate that, although we correctly go to great lengths to protect children in many ways, there is precisely  no oversight, or checking, of new 'organisations' that spring up to, or older organisations that start focusing on, giving advice to children, many of whom maybe extremely vulnerable.

I'm not pointing the finger at any particular party - that is a job for a properly constituted official body, but from evidence presented here and elsewhere, it does seem that there are cases to consider.


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Vile Hagrid hatrid - they should all be perma-banned from social media.


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Yay! ? John Oliver has finally made part deux ...

https://twitter.com/AriDrennen/status/1582055653312724993

oops ... if the YouTube video is unavailable, might need to use a VPN (for USA), search for another source, or wait a month.

 


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Interesting argument, but I don't remember any left handed activists charities trying to convince someone who is dealing with the uncertainties of puberty that they should abandon their right hand (ooer!). And demanding more rights(!) than a right handed person. I realise it's mainly the more obnoxious vocal minority getting all the attention. Maybe they should just shut-up and people will naturally just accept it.


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hehe ... sometimes you guys are just too literal! ?

@Jez - hypothetical question, if I may ...

Which worries you most about a close family member: the risk of using public toilets - or - the chance of them coming out as trans?


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Honestly? I didn't, as this would go some way towards helping me better understand your position.

Yep - not had the time yet ... as you know, I like to be thorough!


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This is a shame, and very weird after watching the innocent clip in question!

https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1582289372468375553


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This is a shame, and very weird after watching the innocent clip in question!

I think it doesn't address the real issue with "cancel culture". It's not that people can't still express their opinions, it's that there's no debate allowed. Ironically, GN has been cancelled for sharing his opinion.


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This is a shame, and very weird after watching the innocent clip in question!

I think it doesn't address the real issue with "cancel culture". It's not that people can't still express their opinions, it's that there's no debate allowed. Ironically, GN has been cancelled for sharing his opinion.

I would say he has been bullied off Twitter (by JKR and her followers) rather than cancelled.


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But that is cancelling. Everyone who disagrees just piles on with the insults until you quit.


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But that is cancelling. Everyone who disagrees just piles on with the insults until you quit.

Kinda, but I cancelling is more about being held accountable for your views.


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Posted by: @arthurfowler

Kinda, but I cancelling is more about being held accountable for your views.

Being accountable is one thing, and that ties into the debate element. But instead of debate it's at best just instant disagreement without discussion, or at worst it's threats of death and rape.


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