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🇬🇧 POLITICS playground - parties, govt, opposition ⚖️

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driver8
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I'm a fan of this guy's politics rather than his style - but this 2 min clip hits home >

https://twitter.com/PeterStefanovi2/status/1639916476441174021?s=20

 

Meanwhile, Britain's biggest podcast has only gone and snagged Gary Lineker! https://twitter.com/RestIsPolitics/status/1640289596431794177?s=20


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IIRC banning MP's second jobs is a Labour policy. And interesting that you single out Labour MPs as having second jobs, yet of the top 20 second job earners, 17 are Conservative MPs (Theresa May tops the list with £2.5 Million earned, BoJo is third with only a Million). Lammy's earnings are from public speaking events rather than the from a job where you lobby Government on behalf of your second employer, which is what these low lifes were agreeing to do.


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Posted by: @shteve

And interesting that you single out Labour MPs

Well, he does spend hours of every day searching for anything negative he can find concerning Labour MP's (sometimes desperately going back many years) and trans people, so it's hardly surprising.

It reminds me a a whiney little kid forever going: "but they did it too".


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I think that's a current Conservative policy, still going strong for 14 years.


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If you think very hard, maybe you can get a clue why the tories aren't criticising Hancock and Kwartang.

As does anyone with an IQ in double figures who isn't earning north of 90k

Nope, you can criticise them any time you like.

Although, with your self professed belief in balance, perhaps you'll take a little time to criticise the tories. 😉


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Germany often pops up here as a comparison country to UK, so here's a 1500 word twitter thread (unrolled here for easier reading) comparing life in Germany to life in the UK.

Interesting - so many fundamental differences in economy, etc, going back decades.

As a young German, you leave university debt-free, with access to well-paid work and affordable housing.

In the UK, you leave education saddled with debt, and pay extortionate living costs from low wages, that are topped-up with in-work benefits (started under Blair) - taxpayers paying employers and not spending on essential public services.

https://twitter.com/skedeschi/status/1638217655587840004


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Serious news outlets check the real impact of announcements such as this, and don't just take what some rent-a-gob from a right wing rant channel posts at face value.

If you read the comments to the tweet carefully, you'll see that, this is not nearly as significant as it has been spun.

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The UK and the EU already has agreements with most CPTPP countries rollovers like Australia and NZ. The new countries are Malaysia and Brunei. So very small additional value, while also being forced to follow rules we had no choice in voting on.

A major advance from a trade agreement with a local grouping where we follow rules that we had a say in creating, to an agreement with a block halfway round the world where we have to follow rules that we had no say in creating. NOT!

Big thanks to jezzer for highlighting yet another major brexit downside.


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I thought this rang a bell - it's been talked about for a few years, so "expected to join" is hardly headline news.

Personally, I'm against promoting trade with countries that are so far away, due to the transport overheads. But @jez, considering you're so concerned about your family's future, you seem to have selectively tuned out all the planetary damage!

I think I've said this before - years ago, "New Zealand lamb" to me meant the breeds of sheep in NZ. I did not realise the butchered carcases were getting shipped/flown from the other side of the world, at a time when when I was riding my bike to school passing flocks of sheep. Even as a teenager I knew this was ridiculous.

1️⃣ Joining the CPTPP is good.

2️⃣ In any future scenario where a government has the desire and opportunity to rejoin the EU but finds doing so incompatible with CPTPP membership, that government can just leave the CPTPP (and should).

3️⃣ UK did a good job rolling over EU FTAs and negotiating new ones with CPTPP members so trade benefits of CPTPP are unlikely to be "huge".

4️⃣ Primary benefits are geostrategic, not economic, plus being in the CPTPP will position the UK well for Chinese or US accessions.

5️⃣ Like the mythical US FTA, joining CPTPP was a stupid argument for leaving the EU ... but is a sensible thing to explore having left. Nothing UK negotiators can do will ever compensate meaningfully for Brexit, but that doesn't mean they should lie down and die.

6️⃣ Shanker Singham spent the last half-decade promising vast benefits to the UK after Brexit, driven by largely unspecified regulatory reforms. He should be asked what happened with that.

https://twitter.com/mrjamesob/status/1641373312549781505?s=20


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So, you are only concerned with thinking about the sexual abuse of your daughter. You don't care if she'll starve or drown. because of the effects of global warming. which will be exacerbated by transporting good half way around the world.

If that was the case you would be continually breaking the rules and would probably have been banned, if it were not for the fact that most people find your desperate, whiney, posts amusing, and just ignore you as the site nutter.


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The down side is the distance good will need to be transported and is a very serious one if you are concerned with global warming and the disastrous effects this will have on future generations.

The real point of responses here is to point out that despite the way the right wing rent-a-gobs try and spin it, it has very little up side.


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