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In your world, you would be free to post your nonsense and interminable transphobic ranting, and no one would say anything.

In the real world, people react to it. You're trying to shut up someone who disagrees with you by characterising that debate as bullying, whereas it is actually YOU trying to bully and silence someone who does not agree with you.

No one is mocking you for concern. What is worrying is that you seem to be focused only on sexual abuse of your daughter by trans men. In fact, she's statistically far more likely to be abused by you. Even more likely a spouse, or other family member. Of all the things that threaten her life and happiness, abuse by a trans man is way down the list of likelihoods. So why obsess about it?


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Posted by: @qpw3141

focused only on sexual abuse of your daughter by trans men.

I don't think that's the case, it's simplification of gender self ID (and then allowing self ID'd people into female only spaces) creating another attack vector for women. Women are unlikely to be attacked by a genuine trans woman, but allowing anyone one who decides to be a woman for the day into those safe spaces does nothing to make women any safer. Yes, there are always going to be other ways that someone can be attacked, but as been said in the green thread, we don't say that we should not bother to do anything because China and India pollute more than we do - why should we add another attack vector just because others already exist?


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Posted by: @shteve

I don't think that's the case, it's simplification of gender self ID (and then allowing self ID'd people into female only spaces) creating another attack vector for women. Women are unlikely to be attacked by a genuine trans woman, but allowing anyone one who decides to be a woman for the day into those safe spaces does nothing to make women any safer.

I agree with this. I should probably have said 'trans men still with dangly bits'.

Yes, there are always going to be other ways that someone can be attacked, but as been said in the green thread, we don't say that we should not bother to do anything because China and India pollute more than we do - why should we add another attack vector just because others already exist?

I've always said that the question needs mature, nuanced, discussion, to get the best possible achievable outcome for all parties. The bully boys on both sides are preventing that.

I question why, if jezzer is truly concerned with his daughter's welfare, does he only post (and post obsessively) about one, relatively unlikely, problem, and ignore the many, many, problems that she is more likely to face.

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Oh look!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65124741

I wonder if this is why the press weren't all over the announcement. πŸ˜€


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It's easy to forget what grown-up politics actually sounds like, in this tight 4 minutes from Yvette Cooper ?

"Waterways Weekly" ! ?Β 

https://twitter.com/implausibleblog/status/1641052493672067081?s=20

If that's too long or too partisan for you, this is migration expert Zoe Gardner in just 2 minutes -Β 

Zoe Gardner (migration expert):

(1) the government has created, then exacerbated, an asylum crisis by denying people safe-routes to the UK, forcing them into the hands of people smugglers and onto small boats.

(2) the government is deliberately putting asylum seekers into highly visible hotels to increase social tensions.

(3) the government has stopped asylum application processing (at any meaningful level) to increase tensions.

https://twitter.com/ZoeJardiniere/status/1641328697662660608?s=20

This government has deliberately created a crisis as a campaign tool, weaponising immigration for political gain.

They have effectively stopped processing asylum claims - just 1% of claims made last year have been processed. And under new legislation going through parliament, they will officially stop processing the claims of anyone who arrives after 7 March 2023.

The numbers build up, in barges and hotels, so the upcoming election campaigning can say they’re the only ones that can fix it ... by following Putin, out of the European Court of Human Rights.

Actually they could fix things tomorrow, just by processing asylum claims. Other governments have done it (even with higher numbers of applications).

This is a cynical, manufactured, unnecessary theatre of cruelty, in which the refugees have to pay the price.


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Jenrick's response? "Labour have no plan."

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The whole 'Labour are just as bad' and 'Labour do it as well', are pretty desperate, when the tories have been in power for so long.


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Sunak now admits that Dover delays are a result of brexit.

Kudos to him for not joining the idiocracy that’s trying to pretend that aren’t.


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Talk about having your head in the sand ... it's ridiculous!

Why don't they just admit they misjudged, and will start to make every effort to remedy things ??

Who could have possibly foreseen that the current system would be inadequate ??

This from 2020 ...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/17/dover-awarded-33000-extra-passport-kiosks/


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Oof ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-65187823


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In this critical moment for humanity, it is vital that we establish truly connected alliances.

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