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I suppose this could go in the 'playground' thread, but it seems important enough to warrant its own.
It appears that the number of people believing that a return to the EU would be good for the UK is around two thirds of those who have a definite opinion.
The percentage in favour of re-joining has been steadily rising, although it must reach a plateau, as there is still a hard core of deluded fantasists who believe that the UK will soon enter a golden age, as a result of brexit opportunities.
Yes!
We said some time back, as the older Brexiters pass away, the upcoming younger voters will hopefully continue to be more socialist, woke and forward-thinking. Fingers-crossed that we can rejoin in the early 2030's, at the latest.
Britons have more confidence in EU than Westminster
Millennials are shattering the oldest rule in politics
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/new-polls-can-uk-reverse-brexit-rejoin-eu-347233/
Find more statistics at Statista
Fingers-crossed that we can rejoin in the early 2030's, at the latest.
As a remainer, I clearly wish we had never left... and would definitely be in the "wrong to leave" bucket
However, I worry about the single track "we must rejoin" train of thought... just because we were wrong to leave, doesn't mean it would be right to rejoin
There is a very likely chance that rejoining will not be at the same level of membership we had previously, where we had a relatively privileged position, unlike many of the other member states
Similarly who knows what the state of anything will be in 7 years
In principle, I hope we do rejoin, but I think we need to play with a little caution and assess the benefits at the time
just because we were wrong to leave, doesn't mean it would be right to rejoin
Yep, that's a fair comment, and it's pretty certain that any rejoin terms would not be as good as the terms we had (thanks in large part to Thatcher, wasn't it?)
But rejoining would bring 2 instant benefits of course -
- more freedom for Brits to travel around (and stay) in the EU,
- far less import/export red tape and cheaper prices.
Those 2 alone would be good enough for me. ?
Add to those:
Less chance of consumer rights being eroded.
Less chance of worker's rights being eroded.
Less chance of environmental protections being eroded.
Less chance of financial regulation being weakened.
More compassion for desperate refugees.
Ability to employ migrant workers more easily.
Really, the list just goes on and on.
I'm not sure people have the will to go through all that again. I voted remain and I'd like to be part of the EU again, but the way if fractured this country was awful. If we can do it without all that stress, even on worse terms, we should go for it.
I don’t see how we can avoid it (not that I’d want to). When a tiny majority (3.78%) voted to leave, they were screaming ‘will of the people’. Now there are 20% more saying we should rejoin, how can that be ignored?
Well, apparently we voted for it so no chance to go back. Every decision is a one time thing, no way to reassess after new information. The number of times I've driven off a cliff and died when I found I'd made a wrong turn, but then, what can you do?
And yet this is a new ‘rule’. It didn’t seem to apply after the first referendum when we joined.
Strange that.
Surely we've got to rejoin, it's just a question of when ...
Joining or Staying Out of the EU Referendum Voting Intention
87% of Remainers say they would vote to join the EU (8% to stay out ... who are these people??)
71% of Leavers would vote to stay out (23% to rejoin)
76% of young adults aged 18-24 (ineligible to vote in the 2016 EU referendum) say they would vote to rejoin the EU.
A referendum on re-joining, within the next 5 years? Agree = 80% of Remainers, 30% of Leavers.
