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If jezzer was seriously interested in protecting women’s rights and protections, he would concentrate on campaigning on topics that would yield far greater benefits than trans rights.
His obsessive and somewhat hysterical ranting and raving about what is, effectively a niche problem, makes him appear to have a very unhealthy focus on this single topic.
Ignorant ? !
Your inability to understand simple English is lamentable.
Female abuse is not a niche problem. Abuse of women by trans men is.
If you were truly concerned about women’s rights and their protection, you would concentrate on some problem that is causing women more suffering, such as spousal abuse, rather than obsessively ranting and raving about something that is a far less common problem.
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Come on guys, keep it civil. Argue with the ideas without making things personal.
Meanwhile ... I'd never heard of this 'Posie Parker' person till a few days ago, when literal Nazis showed up at her rallies. No suprise that she apparently writes for The Spectator and is even too much for the MumsNet crowd!
Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull, also known as Posie Parker, is a British anti-transgender rights activist and the founder of the group 'Standing for Women'.
Keen has used posters, billboards, stickers, and social media to promote anti-trans messages, and she has organized events in the UK, US, Oz and NZ that have been protested against by supporters of transgender rights.
Once again, NZ proves itself to be top tier ...
err... no, not tolerating all the nazi supporters she attracted. On a personal level, she was treated badly.
There are mentally disturbed people on both sides of the debate.
Their mental instability presents in various ways.
Some demonstrate hatefully on one side or the other.
Some try and stir up hatred by obsessively posting on twitter or other sites.
It’s a pity the various nutters get a platform.
Jez - we don't need (near) live-tweeting of the event ... I've removed most of your posts.
My twitter feed is overflowing with PP commentary from both sides, so we don't want it all duplicating here.
Once again, it's the tiny shouty minority that gets all the attention whilst most people just want to get on with their lives (and pee in peace).
Obviously the violence shown to PP on a personal level was terrible, and she obviously didn't invite the neo-nazis herself, but they are attracted to her rhetoric. Anything that promotes extremism on either side should be condemned.
But it's not so black and white. JKR is tweeting support of PP, but apparently over the years Julie Bindel (for example) has actually been against PP and her divisive rhetoric.
This is a non sequitur. He said that extremism is not wanted on either side. In case you’re wondering, the only extremist here is you.
How do you hope to make a case when you can’t even write simple English in such a way that it makes sense?
What female violence?
Jez, Jez, Jez ... it seems like you're arguing with people off-forum and it really doesn't work. This sort of thing is best kept on Twitter where you can join in with the fight.
As Q said - this is a very odd statement -
No one here has said that VAWG is not a serious issue - again, it's like you're arguing with someone who isn't here. Personally, I've read up on @CountDeadWomen and have been following them for some time, it's horrendous what cis men do to women (usually women that they know).
A far more productive use of our time would be to try to find common ground instead of "othering" each other and increasing divisions. As we've said before, we need higher taxes, better policing, a revamped court system, better social services and better NHS. God help anyone who calls 999 these days - it's a postcode lottery whether you can get an ambulance or a police officer to come round, and when cases do go to court there'a 2% conviction rate for violent crimes against women.
